Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power *spoilers*

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Hey, 23 00:01:13,470 --> 00:01:15,150 it's gonna be another special mini episode. 24 00:01:15,150 --> 00:01:16,910 We're gonna do talking about lore the rings. 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,230 No Sean in this one. So if any super fans go ahead and log off. 26 00:01:20,260 --> 00:01:21,790 Sean is long gone. 27 00:01:22,130 --> 00:01:24,950 But he'll be back somewhere. I mean, yeah, no, he he's coming back. Yeah. 28 00:01:24,950 --> 00:01:25,990 He's not fucking dead. 29 00:01:26,100 --> 00:01:27,190 Sean will return. I. 30 00:01:27,190 --> 00:01:28,310 Mean, we hope what we know of. 31 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:32,790 Well, no, we're not sure, but I think that the true king will return someday. 32 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:38,390 anyway. Um, so we're gonna talk about rings, power, 33 00:01:38,450 --> 00:01:42,950 Rob, on Amazon rap. Um, and we're gonna re a little, uh, 34 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,750 um, I believe this is Oregon Pinot. Yeah. Follow the beast. Um, 35 00:01:46,860 --> 00:01:50,670 I chose this one just because the label reminded me of the second episode. So, 36 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,830 uh, which features an underwater sea creature. So. 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:59,030 Oh, spoil alert for Taylor. I told jeez, I, I will be just fine. Okay. 38 00:01:59,030 --> 00:01:59,470 Yeah. 39 00:01:59,470 --> 00:02:02,550 TAing episode one, but not two. So yeah, traveling is Travis. I've seen. 40 00:02:02,550 --> 00:02:05,030 Well, but we know this we're we're going into both. 41 00:02:05,030 --> 00:02:05,863 Two. Yeah. 42 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:06,910 So spoilers. 43 00:02:07,100 --> 00:02:08,430 Spoilers are bound. We're. 44 00:02:08,430 --> 00:02:09,830 Both, uh, episodes of rock. 45 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,390 So proceed with caution and uh, yeah, Amazon prime. So, um, 46 00:02:14,390 --> 00:02:16,630 they were saying one benefit of this show is that a lot of people have Amazon 47 00:02:16,630 --> 00:02:17,790 prime, so they'll be able to watch it. 48 00:02:17,790 --> 00:02:22,790 So a lot of people have the builtin subscription, uh, quick rundown. Um, 49 00:02:23,660 --> 00:02:26,430 this is based on, um, 50 00:02:26,430 --> 00:02:30,990 snippets of lower the rings and the appends. Um, the, 51 00:02:31,050 --> 00:02:34,630 she runners do not have the rights to the Simian. Am I saying that right? 52 00:02:34,740 --> 00:02:36,750 I, yeah, I think so. I, which is weird. 53 00:02:36,750 --> 00:02:39,550 Cause that's all I thought that this was based on. Yeah. 54 00:02:39,550 --> 00:02:40,470 That's all the weirdness. 55 00:02:40,580 --> 00:02:43,790 That's the extra stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Um, it's. 56 00:02:43,820 --> 00:02:47,190 Yeah. They only have, uh, access to the Hobbit, 57 00:02:47,450 --> 00:02:51,630 the Lord of the ring's trilogy and the appends that are at the end of the 58 00:02:51,630 --> 00:02:52,150 trilogy. 59 00:02:52,150 --> 00:02:56,750 It's what snippets they can pull out of that and build a story on. Um, 60 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:02,080 so this will apparently go for five seasons. God damn. They have produced. 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:02,913 I apologies. 62 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,920 they have preordained that they've kind of already imagined the end 63 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:07,753 point of the series. 64 00:03:07,950 --> 00:03:11,680 Yeah. So they also had to, um, 65 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:16,120 they had to pay the Tolkin estate enough as if they were gonna do five 66 00:03:16,130 --> 00:03:17,040 seasons. Yeah. 67 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,520 They had to pay the toll. Yes. 68 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,200 Yeah. The toll control. The troll toll. No, no, no. The cave troll. 69 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,280 um, this takes place during the second age. 70 00:03:26,290 --> 00:03:31,000 So this is thousands of years before the, uh, the original books. 71 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,600 Yeah. Uh, game of Thrones nor, uh, like Lord of the rings. 72 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,640 They don't give you a year number as far as I know. Yeah. There's. 73 00:03:38,910 --> 00:03:39,400 Long. 74 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,440 This was a long ass time ago. We're like, all right, cool. Mm-hmm . 75 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,680 Yeah. Um, 76 00:03:43,020 --> 00:03:47,560 and so this basically covers the events that will set up the lower than rings 77 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,440 trilogy, basically SARS rise to power, uh, 78 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,040 the forging of the rings of power, the Alliance of, and men, um, 79 00:03:55,490 --> 00:03:59,320 it features a few familiar characters from the books who are essentially 80 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,520 immortal. LVES like, Guri the, what Gallad. 81 00:04:04,230 --> 00:04:05,063 Goad. 82 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,800 Galal glad it's Oklahoma, man. Give, gimme that one more time. So. 83 00:04:09,310 --> 00:04:10,680 Guri goad. 84 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:14,480 Gala. COAD okay. I've been saying it wrong all these years. 85 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:16,120 Really? Yeah. 86 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:16,480 You saw. 87 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,960 The movies. I know. It's like, it's. 88 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,360 Weird. I'm not gonna give you too much shit. 89 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:20,030 But you know. 90 00:04:20,030 --> 00:04:20,920 That's a lie. 91 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,400 um, 92 00:04:23,460 --> 00:04:27,360 for world of Warcraft people's I said Parian one time and I've never lived that 93 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:28,160 down. At. 94 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,960 Least that's how Peter Jackson in that film, because it could be glad that he, 95 00:04:33,410 --> 00:04:35,200 or it could be GLA whatever. 96 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,560 Yeah. And he's got a weird Kiwi accent though. So things true. It sounds weird. 97 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,680 Mm-hmm it's like running it through one of those like graders 98 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,240 where it's like, it looks completely different when it comes out. Yeah. Yeah. 99 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:45,600 so that's. 100 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,320 A Kiwi actor and Elrond is the other one Elrond. 101 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,040 Hubbard. Um, so yeah, 102 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,600 features Elrond who was played by Hugo weaving in the original and then GLA 103 00:04:54,190 --> 00:04:58,640 played by Kate Blanchett, uh, in the original now played by different actresses. 104 00:04:58,810 --> 00:05:01,640 Um, that's a Welsh actor's plan gala. 105 00:05:01,830 --> 00:05:05,040 I could not pronounce her name because it's Welsh and it is, 106 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,360 has a lot of consonants in it. So I could not do it. Um, 107 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,640 features a lot of disparate races, 108 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,680 but with different looks than what they had in the original, uh, trilogies, 109 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,080 which has been a source of controversy, even though apparently, uh, 110 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,680 Tolkin spells out that these like particular hobbits had in darker skin in the 111 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:21,680 books. So the. 112 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:22,280 Hear foots. 113 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:25,280 Yes. Yes. And it's like, people are pissed for some reason. I know. 114 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:29,040 They're like precursors to hobbits basically. Yeah. Or a different, you know, 115 00:05:29,390 --> 00:05:31,680 cast, not, not a cast, but you know. 116 00:05:31,910 --> 00:05:36,000 Offshoot basically. Yeah. Part of the family tree, but a different branch of it. 117 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,240 Mm-hmm the nerds are pissed just cuz that's what nerds do they 118 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:39,630 rage? 119 00:05:39,630 --> 00:05:42,880 Yeah. They're they're upset about um, yeah. 120 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,960 Dark skin hobbits or dwarfs. And I, I, Sean, 121 00:05:47,270 --> 00:05:52,240 I will say before this C us a meme that said the true 122 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:53,240 Lord of the rings fans, 123 00:05:53,580 --> 00:05:56,640 all they're upset about is that the female dwarfs don't have beards. 124 00:05:56,670 --> 00:06:00,480 Yeah. Yeah. there are no DWA women, 125 00:06:01,060 --> 00:06:02,360 but it's like, I mean, 126 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,720 I would put out there that if you're pissed about dark skinned Hobbs, 127 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,280 you need to find a hobby. Yeah. 128 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:07,113 A Hoit. 129 00:06:07,450 --> 00:06:11,160 Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Build a ship in a bottle, you know, build, get paint, 130 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,480 my numbers, do Boni trees, you know, go and paint your face, 131 00:06:14,530 --> 00:06:18,280 go find something to do, you know, get yourself a hobby. If you're, 132 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:19,040 if this works you. 133 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,840 Up. I mean, I get it because in, in the books there's something like the, 134 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:27,520 the men of the east or something are, uh, I guess I, 135 00:06:27,910 --> 00:06:29,880 I don't know. I I've read the books, but I, 136 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,280 I understand where they're coming from, but still just we can calm 'em down. 137 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:35,113 Yeah. 138 00:06:35,530 --> 00:06:39,720 Um, so basically that's what I've got here. 139 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,520 These are my notes. This was green lit by Jeff Bezos, uh, 140 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:47,480 who is a huge Lord of the rings fan. And so he basically said whatever, 141 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,600 how many ever zero is I have to put on a check is what we're gonna do. And so. 142 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:52,433 Yeah, what's the number. 143 00:06:52,550 --> 00:06:56,560 They purchased the rights to do this from the tol estate for 144 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,880 250 million beans. 145 00:06:58,880 --> 00:06:59,440 And, and. 146 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,640 Crumble. I was actually gonna say, that's it because, I mean like. 147 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,960 That's, that's just the right. And again, they don't own the simil, 148 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,520 which is the new real estate for story. 149 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,840 They just own the Rios to the original books. Yeah. 150 00:07:09,260 --> 00:07:12,080 And they're not rehashing the Peter Jackson films. They. 151 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:12,400 Can't remake. 152 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,280 Movie. Yeah. 153 00:07:13,930 --> 00:07:15,040 So that, oh. 154 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,160 They is that part of it. They can't remake the. 155 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,600 Movies. Well, it's like they, they're not going to, I mean, they, they can't, 156 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:21,880 it's not a legal thing, but it's like, 157 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,320 you're not gonna remake Peter Jackson's movie. 158 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,160 Yeah. They're right. Yeah. 159 00:07:24,650 --> 00:07:25,250 Um. 160 00:07:25,250 --> 00:07:28,400 So you can absolutely fucking remake the Hobbit. 161 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:29,280 Though, as one movie. 162 00:07:30,060 --> 00:07:33,480 Yes. Or two, whatever, if you gotta break it into two, I'm fine. 163 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:38,240 But you are not gonna give me another fucking 30 minute barrel scene. 164 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:39,753 . 165 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,120 Swarf, you're mad about Bjorn. 166 00:07:42,460 --> 00:07:45,120 I'm mad about BJO. Uh, I'm mad about you. 167 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:46,713 168 00:07:48,190 --> 00:07:52,640 Godammit so, anyway, I've got my thoughts. 169 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,080 I wanna hear your guys' thoughts TA you've seen the first episodes. 170 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:55,480 I wanna hear. 171 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,280 Yours. Yes. Um, I fucking love it. Um, 172 00:07:58,290 --> 00:07:59,960 he kinda goes back to what I was talking about with, um, 173 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:03,920 the house of dragon game of Thrones. I was gonna watch this anyway. 174 00:08:04,030 --> 00:08:07,120 I was a little behind on it. Just life is hard sometimes. Um, 175 00:08:07,140 --> 00:08:10,280 but I was very intrigued with it. Seen the trailers. I was like, hell yeah. 176 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,240 And when I finally watched it, I was like, oh, okay, cool. And it was, 177 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,960 I was telling us to Travis earlier, like when I was watching it, um, 178 00:08:19,030 --> 00:08:22,080 just the visual effects are still just absolutely phenomenal. Amazing. 179 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,080 It just amazing you're you're just like blankly staring, like what is going on, 180 00:08:25,500 --> 00:08:28,360 but just like with the game of Thrones, um, I was, 181 00:08:28,510 --> 00:08:30,160 I was just watching it and they were like, oh yeah, 182 00:08:31,850 --> 00:08:36,440 lateral help me. Was that it? Okay. Yeah. I was like, I was like, I was like, 183 00:08:36,610 --> 00:08:40,120 oh shit. I was like, is that, oh shit. Cause you like, 184 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,760 I didn't know the timeframe. Like I, I didn't, 185 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,600 I know this is a quote unquote Preco, but I'm like, where does it take place? 186 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,520 And then it was like, oh yeah, here's Elron. I was like, what? Yeah. 187 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,360 And I was like, this is, 188 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,120 and so I got like way more into it knowing that these cause like we know that 189 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,880 they're gonna be around for a little bit. So, so I was like, oh wow. 190 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,960 So something I can relate to and just watching, I was like, man, 191 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:04,240 this is just so well done. I, and I mean, like I said, nerd are gonna be nerds. 192 00:09:04,310 --> 00:09:07,720 I wouldn't offended by anything. I did. I did like how they were telling, 193 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,800 like these are the, you know, hard foot hard foots. And I was like, okay. 194 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,480 So I thought, well, you know, I mean, I hate to say it, you know, 195 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,920 cover your ears, people out there, but evolution is real. So's like, oh, 196 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,800 so are these all just gonna evolve into hobbits? Yeah. And I was like, is that, 197 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,760 is that what's happening here? Mm-hmm but I was like, oh, 198 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:26,480 this is kind of cool. And I said, I've only seen episode one. Uh, 199 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,680 I did watch it with my girlfriend and she was like, wow, 200 00:09:28,680 --> 00:09:30,600 that was a lot in the first 10 minutes, Taylor, we. 201 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:31,760 Get it. You have a girlfriend. 202 00:09:31,790 --> 00:09:34,960 Okay. I was watching with my partner. Is that easier? Okay. Yeah. 203 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,480 Like my partner and I, uh, and she was like that, it was really cool. 204 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,160 And then just the whole entire episode, 205 00:09:42,350 --> 00:09:46,200 I know it was long just like any of like the Lord of the ring stuff. Um, 206 00:09:46,700 --> 00:09:51,120 but I was way more into this than I was house of dragon of all 207 00:09:52,050 --> 00:09:54,320 of all, all the first three episodes. Yeah. The first one, 208 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,400 I was a little more into just cuz it was house of dragon, 209 00:09:56,460 --> 00:10:00,960 but with this I was very into it and I would've watched the second one 210 00:10:01,260 --> 00:10:04,960 had I not known it was an hour long. And when I was like, oh, 211 00:10:05,030 --> 00:10:07,800 I can't pull that off right now. And I was like, no, I can't do that. 212 00:10:08,020 --> 00:10:11,120 But I am very, very, very excited for this series. 213 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,120 And just with this first episode alone, 214 00:10:13,670 --> 00:10:17,160 visual effects and just me just kind of, 215 00:10:17,550 --> 00:10:20,880 I am not at Lord of the rings nerd, but I do nerd out on this. It's like, 216 00:10:21,230 --> 00:10:24,440 I might say this first episode was an eight. I, I was very, 217 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,560 very into it and probably I'm a little upset that's on Fridays. 218 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:31,640 So it's being released because that's my nappy time. And it was like, 219 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,360 it's hard for me to stay up late on Fridays, 220 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:38,080 but I am very into this and I will definitely be watching like 221 00:10:38,230 --> 00:10:39,600 when it comes out. Yeah. 222 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,720 Yeah. Travis, uh, yeah, so I was prepared. I, 223 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,280 I heard that they were, you know, I, I had heard all the, 224 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,600 the toxic fan hate before it came out. 225 00:10:49,860 --> 00:10:52,760 And one of the last things I saw was like, guys, 226 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:58,080 remember don't even watch, not even to hate watch, like give it no, 227 00:10:58,230 --> 00:11:02,920 I was like really I'm at least gonna watch it and see what I see. 228 00:11:03,490 --> 00:11:03,970 Um, 229 00:11:03,970 --> 00:11:08,920 so I was prepared to hate it because I had also seen the wheel of time 230 00:11:09,050 --> 00:11:11,880 by Robert Jordan that was also produced by Amazon, 231 00:11:12,030 --> 00:11:15,160 that I think they also sunk a, a chunk of change into, 232 00:11:15,700 --> 00:11:18,960 and I watched that, uh, having never read the books, I, 233 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:19,920 a bunch of my friends had, 234 00:11:19,940 --> 00:11:23,320 had read them and talked about wheel of time and I'm like, all right. All right. 235 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,880 Alright, I'll give it a look. See, I watched it, gave it a few episodes. I mean, 236 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,120 I watched the entire first season, but it was very CW to me. I was like, 237 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,760 this is CW. Uh, I mean they, they gave it some money, 238 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,200 but I don't like this. 239 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,800 I don't know if it was some of the actors or the acting or just something, 240 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,080 something about wheel of time there. I, I I'll watch the second season, 241 00:11:47,780 --> 00:11:51,720 but I was not impressed with the, the money they spent. It was, 242 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,080 it was a little rough. So I was expecting kind of the same. 243 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,000 I was expecting them to show up like, Hey, 244 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,400 we got hair feet and no money on special effects and we're not going to, 245 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:06,600 we're gonna do a whole lot of again, like CW, like Smallville, Hey, 246 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,840 we're gonna give you Superman, but he's not gonna do any of the cool shit. 247 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,320 He's not gonna use this powers too much. Yeah. 248 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:17,240 We're mostly gonna give you romantic things near lockers and then a villain of 249 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,720 the week. And then, oh, 250 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:23,520 there was almost 30 seconds of S heroics in this and then there on you go. 251 00:12:24,100 --> 00:12:27,760 But I watched this, uh, first episode and I was like, holy shit. 252 00:12:28,030 --> 00:12:32,360 They spent some money on the screen. They in the first no expense. Yeah. 253 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,360 I saw one of the first, uh, flashbacks of the battle with, uh, FINRA, 254 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,000 I think go Glad's uh, 255 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,200 brother and the taken down a, uh, 256 00:12:42,300 --> 00:12:45,280 one of the Eagles Eagles. Yeah. And crashing. I was like, oh, 257 00:12:45,790 --> 00:12:50,520 they spent some like cinema style money on these special 258 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,160 effects. I like, oh yeah. Oh, okay. I was like, there, 259 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,240 they're obviously gonna use this sparingly. And they, they did, 260 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,800 but you can see the money on the screen. Yeah. 261 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,800 And the quality of just, I guess even the cameras that they used, this, 262 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,640 this looked cinema quality. Say. 263 00:13:08,010 --> 00:13:10,160 It looked like Peter Jackson's. Yeah. I mean a hundred. 264 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,760 Percent. Um, also the, um, I'm super psyched that I, 265 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:19,760 I thought we were getting all new Howard shore music score to go with it. 266 00:13:19,820 --> 00:13:21,880 But I guess he only did the theme song, 267 00:13:22,180 --> 00:13:25,920 but there's some guy named bear McCrery who I'm not familiar with. 268 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,920 But you said he did Battlestar Lac. Todd mm-hmm yeah. Okay. Uh, 269 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,000 which is excellent. Um, but yeah, so I was prepared to hate it. 270 00:13:35,070 --> 00:13:36,720 I got to the end of the episode, I was like, 271 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,640 this is actually really fucking good. Or has this edible just really kicked in? 272 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,880 it can be both. Yeah. It can be both. But then I got to, 273 00:13:46,170 --> 00:13:47,840 um, I'll skip ahead. 274 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:52,800 Like I was interested basically in every story that showed up and 275 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,200 I love the fact I'm upset that house of the dragon, this season, 276 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,920 their opening credit scene is just going down a family tree 277 00:14:02,130 --> 00:14:03,680 because it's just kind of, 278 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:07,600 you see trickles of blood going down and it's going to this thing and it's going 279 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,080 to some symbol that I don't know what the fuck it is. Yeah. 280 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,760 Mm-hmm and then it's moving down. I'm like, okay, 281 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,680 this is a family tree. Do I need, I need some cliff notes to understand this. I, 282 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:20,200 I really wish they would kind of show the map again. Even if, 283 00:14:20,350 --> 00:14:24,640 I guess it's mainly gonna be in the red, keep all the fucking time, whatever. 284 00:14:25,210 --> 00:14:29,960 Um, but it's, it doesn't hop around enough, but this, uh, 285 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,200 their method of switching from glad, 286 00:14:34,260 --> 00:14:38,680 and then they show the map kind of like Indiana Jones and they like lift the 287 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:39,513 camera, 288 00:14:39,530 --> 00:14:43,640 go over and then they show where the har foots are and then they lift it again. 289 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,640 And they shown where valor is. I'm like, 290 00:14:46,110 --> 00:14:50,560 I have more S spatial awareness of what's going on and I fucking dig it. 291 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,920 I wish that game of Thrones. Would've done that a little bit. 292 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,880 If they would've had like, you know, the sound and then moved to the next spot, 293 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,160 I'd be like, oh, okay. We're in dragon stone now. Or like, oh, okay. 294 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,240 This is har hall. I get it. Yeah. 295 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,960 It's because when you read one of these crazy fantasy books in the very 296 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,440 beginning of the page, they have the whole huge like map for you. 297 00:15:14,730 --> 00:15:16,880 So if somebody's talking about something, 298 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:21,280 you can flip back to the front page and look again and get it fresh in your 299 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,520 head. You're like, oh, okay. This is way the fuck over here. 300 00:15:24,050 --> 00:15:27,680 So the way they've done it in lo the rings, I really enjoy it. Rings the power. 301 00:15:28,330 --> 00:15:33,240 Um, the last thing I'll say, uh, is that I've really liked in this, 302 00:15:33,290 --> 00:15:36,720 um, second episode, you know, you, they kind of show you the, 303 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,720 the Orks and stuff and the flashbacks at the very beginning, 304 00:15:40,340 --> 00:15:43,880 and you're used to it, seeing it in all the Laings movies. 305 00:15:43,990 --> 00:15:48,520 What I've really liked though, in the second episode is that all of a sudden, 306 00:15:48,620 --> 00:15:52,760 you see the Orks like tunneling underneath and you just see like one or, 307 00:15:53,100 --> 00:15:56,800 but they make it fucking scary, like jaws, like there's, 308 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,720 it's like a boogeyman under your house. Mm-hmm, , 309 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,320 that's discovered that you're there pops out and it's just crazy. And then, 310 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,720 you know, hijinks in Sue, but they make ORs scary. Again, 311 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,040 you say the word or you're like, okay. Yeah. Lego loss is gonna show up. Yeah. 312 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,440 And like shoot 15 in the head. they show one in the second episode. 313 00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:19,920 It's it's a whole different it's like jaws is in your house. 314 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,960 It's fucking bad ass. Yeah. And so I got to end into that episode. I mean, 315 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,120 there, there are things that I'm hoping happen. I hope we'll see. 316 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:33,080 Maybe Tom Bombadil from like the Hobbit who was also not in the fucking Hobbit 317 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,680 movie that they spent three fucking movies to try and do, 318 00:16:37,860 --> 00:16:41,200 and didn't even include everything. Like they stretched it. 319 00:16:41,220 --> 00:16:43,560 I'm upset about the Hobbit clearly, 320 00:16:43,580 --> 00:16:48,440 but rings of power is noting the 321 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,760 Hobbit outta the park. It's kicking the shit out of that. 322 00:16:51,070 --> 00:16:56,000 It's still not quite original lo rings level, but I am at attention. Yes. 323 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,040 And I got a half Chub. Oh. Even house of the dragons in half Chubb in me. And. 324 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,480 As disturbing as it is, I thought of that watching, like. 325 00:17:02,810 --> 00:17:03,520 My half Chub. 326 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,200 Oh, the Eagle getting be knocked out. I was like, oh, 327 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,920 Travis is rocking a bow becoming hard right now. Oh yeah. The or. 328 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,040 Everything about my boner. 329 00:17:11,340 --> 00:17:13,480 The sheet is slowly rising up. 330 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,200 yes. Yeah. Travis is a one man. Seattle's commercial right now. . 331 00:17:17,550 --> 00:17:18,210 Like. 332 00:17:18,210 --> 00:17:22,480 He is six to midnight. Um, I enjoyed it as well. 333 00:17:22,590 --> 00:17:26,960 I liked it. Um, more than I thought I had the same idea of like, 334 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,680 this is gonna be a cash. Grab it. I mean, it might look cheap. I mean, 335 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:31,960 they made up a lot of money into it, 336 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:36,000 but then the story's gonna suck or it might be a decent story with like shotty 337 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,440 special effects that are expensive, but cheap looking, but. 338 00:17:38,510 --> 00:17:41,040 Well, and, and, and sorry to interrupt, but it was like, that's kind, you know, 339 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,120 Travis, somehow he read all this pre stuff. Like that's maybe something that I, 340 00:17:44,350 --> 00:17:46,600 I, I read more about the house of dragon than anything else. 341 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,320 And for the most part, somewhat led down. I'm still gonna watch. Yeah. 342 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,840 I didn't watch anything on this. I just watched the trailers. 343 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,480 I didn't read anything. Like, I didn't know. 344 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,400 It was supposed to go on for five seasons. Yeah. I didn't know anything. 345 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,960 And so I kind of went in just completely blank minded and I think that might 346 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,400 have helped. Yeah. Like if I had heard like, oh yeah, the CGI is really good, 347 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,040 but the storyline sucks or whatever. It'd be like, you kind of, 348 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,720 that might alter what, what you think when you're going into it. 349 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,400 But I just went in blank and was like, push play. And I was like, 350 00:18:13,950 --> 00:18:16,480 this is fucking good. Yeah. And I was like, that's. 351 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,640 Yeah. And I dunno about you guys, but like, I remember growing up, like, 352 00:18:19,860 --> 00:18:22,600 you know, I was forbidden to watch the Simpsons, my mom. Oh yeah. 353 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,120 And so made me wanna watch more when the nerd fan boys or flipping out, 354 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:29,240 don't watch this, whatever you do makes me wanna watch it more. Yeah. Yeah. 355 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,680 You know, it's like, no, I wanna check this out. Yeah. 356 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,240 Cause whatever these goers are raging on. There's something here. Yeah. 357 00:18:33,300 --> 00:18:35,320 And I'm sorry. It's like, I mean, if you're upset, I mean, 358 00:18:35,570 --> 00:18:38,720 if you're upset about that, that makes me sad. Yeah. Like, I mean, 359 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,880 like you're get your shit together, dog. Yeah. 360 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,040 Find something to do. Yeah. 361 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:42,880 Yeah. God. 362 00:18:42,910 --> 00:18:45,840 Anyway, it's a big world out there, but yeah. I, this seven and a half, 363 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,360 eight so far I'm digging. That's. 364 00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:47,680 What I was thinking. 365 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,120 Yeah. And yeah, I dig the Howard shore music. I love, 366 00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:52,800 I actually have some bear Macur stuff that he's done for movies and stuff. 367 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,360 So he's, he's a good composer. 368 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:57,400 What else has he done besides Battlestar? I'm trying to think of the movies. 369 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,440 The remake of Battlestar, like early 2000 sci-fi channel. Yeah. So. 370 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,160 He did like the, all on the watch tower, all that stuff. Oh. 371 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:04,670 Well. 372 00:19:04,670 --> 00:19:08,440 Like the, all the, the piano stuff from that mm-hmm um, 373 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,480 he's done some other TV shows and it's so I, I remember seeing his name. 374 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,760 And so I went and did like a, 375 00:19:12,790 --> 00:19:16,920 I've got a giant movie playlist of like soundtracks, which incidentally, uh, 376 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,400 the movie mailbag pod that I did solo for labor day was my top 10, uh, 377 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,840 movie soundtracks for all time. Ooh. 378 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,760 Howard shore was number five for lower the rings, two towers. Nice. 379 00:19:25,850 --> 00:19:26,530 Ah. 380 00:19:26,530 --> 00:19:27,363 So yeah. 381 00:19:27,650 --> 00:19:30,760 Oh, I would've cheated in just the Howard shore for Lord the. 382 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,560 Rings and I thought about it, 383 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,440 but then I did specific movies for everything else. 384 00:19:33,490 --> 00:19:35,760 So I thought I'll do that one cuz it's like, it's kind of a cheek. 385 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:36,840 Cause they're all three of 'em are similar, 386 00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:40,160 but I mean it's like John Williams' music, star wars, trilogies. 387 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,200 They're all different in a way. Um, but yeah, 388 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,960 I was like what an achievement that was for him to be able to do that music. 389 00:19:46,110 --> 00:19:48,640 I mean, cause they said the movies were unfilmable for decades. Like they, 390 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,040 you couldn't do it. Mm-hmm . And so, you know, 391 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,800 it's equally difficult to do the music to the movies and have all these 392 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,440 different characters and keep everything straight and his stuff was so good. 393 00:19:56,550 --> 00:19:59,720 Yeah. So it's like you think about those movies. I mean every, 394 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:00,800 every movie I named on that list, 395 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,320 it wouldn't have been as successful as it was it had it not been for the music 396 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,153 mm-hmm so. 397 00:20:04,270 --> 00:20:07,880 Well, I, I immediately thought when I was, um, I, 398 00:20:07,950 --> 00:20:12,160 I saw that the soundtrack was out for rings of power. I started listening to it. 399 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,160 I was like, oh, alright, sweet. And the first one was Howard shore. 400 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,560 And then I just kept listening and not looking back at my phone. 401 00:20:18,740 --> 00:20:21,680 And then I look up and I was like, bear MC crew, what the fuck? Like, 402 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,360 what did I get on? Is this different? And then I had to go back to it, 403 00:20:25,580 --> 00:20:28,520 but it was, I got the same feeling, 404 00:20:28,570 --> 00:20:33,200 at least when the movie Superman returns was coming out, um, 405 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:38,080 in 2006 and they used John Williams score for 406 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,760 the trailer mm-hmm and then they had some of it like a little bit 407 00:20:42,850 --> 00:20:47,360 in the, um, in the actual score of the film, but it was uh, 408 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:51,040 a different composer. It was Ryan Ottley or somebody. He was. 409 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,400 Like Oman, who wasactually John. 410 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:52,810 Ottman. 411 00:20:52,810 --> 00:20:55,400 He was Brian singer's editor. He wasn't even like a composer. 412 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,960 He took John Williams' score and basically edited himself into the movie. 413 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,760 Ew. Yeah. But he did other stuff too, and it wasn't, 414 00:21:02,860 --> 00:21:07,440 and it was available free on a website and I would sit there and listen to it. 415 00:21:08,050 --> 00:21:10,440 It just was not the same as John Williams. I'm like. 416 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,020 No, no. 417 00:21:11,020 --> 00:21:14,120 You know, Brian singer would uh, um, 418 00:21:14,670 --> 00:21:19,440 brag that he had the most expensive movie that, um, 419 00:21:19,950 --> 00:21:24,480 w was it WB, I guess it's w had, had produced back then he was like, 420 00:21:24,530 --> 00:21:27,840 oh yeah. I've I spent 200 million on this movie. 421 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,920 It's the most expensive movie you ever made. And it's all I was like, 422 00:21:31,180 --> 00:21:34,120 you couldn't give some of that money to John Williams. Yeah. 423 00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:36,880 And use the entire fucking score, like get somebody else, 424 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,760 but like use that fucking music. And now, I mean, 425 00:21:40,900 --> 00:21:45,000 God Han Zimmer's great. But to me, 426 00:21:45,060 --> 00:21:49,320 his Superman score, like, so John Williams, it's a super plus. I wanted, 427 00:21:49,550 --> 00:21:53,680 I want Superman to continue to have the same theme in every film. 428 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,480 Like there there's, it doesn't get more iconic than that to me. Oh, a. 429 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:58,300 Hundred percent. 430 00:21:58,300 --> 00:22:00,160 You have to go back and listen to that mail bag. Cuz it, 431 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,240 it was a debate of which superhero to put in my list. 432 00:22:02,490 --> 00:22:05,520 It was down to either that one or Danny Elman's Batman. Ooh. 433 00:22:06,130 --> 00:22:09,640 So, oh, uh, last thing I will say is I, 434 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,280 I sent the guys a meme or a meme, fuck, whatever. 435 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,400 Maybe I don't know what the fuck a factoid that was. Uh, 436 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,320 the first episode of house of the dragons got 10 million views. 437 00:22:20,380 --> 00:22:24,120 The first episode of rings of power got 25 million views. 438 00:22:24,190 --> 00:22:27,160 Well, and, and this is not taking away from cuz Lord, 439 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,480 the rings by far is better right now than house at dragon pay wall. 440 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,840 But it wasn't. Yeah. It wasn't until track until you'd mentioned that it's like, 441 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,920 I forgot it's on Amazon prime. I think most. 442 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,520 People have. 443 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,840 Hundreds of thousands of people have that compared to an HBO. That's what, 444 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,520 1499 now. Yeah. 445 00:22:40,630 --> 00:22:41,920 Plus, uh, you know, 446 00:22:42,150 --> 00:22:46,320 people don't want their kids watching nipples and asses and yeah. 447 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,680 Lower of the rings gonna be a. 448 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:48,960 Little red weddings, young adult. 449 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,560 Mature. 450 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:50,393 Friendly. Yeah. 451 00:22:50,530 --> 00:22:51,000 Um. 452 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:51,560 Speak. 453 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,680 Speak for yourself though. Oh, geez. Have. Yeah. 454 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,560 Yeah. Um, and but I mean, furthermore, 455 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,280 I would imagine neither company is gonna be pissed about like 10 million views 456 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,400 for your episodes. That's gotta be one of the top streaming episodes. Yeah. 457 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:04,880 Touche. Yeah. 458 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:05,310 Yeah. 459 00:23:05,310 --> 00:23:08,680 I mean 25, obviously what you want. That's great. Yeah. I mean, 460 00:23:09,110 --> 00:23:11,480 I mean the house, the dragon, that's huge too, 461 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,720 to be in double digit mm-hmm millions of stream, you know? 462 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,000 I mean that's so neither company's gonna be pissed about what they're getting, 463 00:23:17,900 --> 00:23:20,240 but it's been another syno. 464 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:20,720 It has. 465 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,560 Been, we got Tay and Trav. Yo yo um. 466 00:23:23,730 --> 00:23:24,920 No, Sean, John, no. 467 00:23:24,990 --> 00:23:27,040 Sean, Sean. Uh, 468 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,000 my understanding was he's gonna be named valedictorian of his high school class. 469 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,640 So he was getting his speech ready. Oh. They went. 470 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,680 Back, they went back and looked at all the school and like, cuz he was, um. 471 00:23:35,490 --> 00:23:36,560 He was salutorian. 472 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,800 Salutorian I wanna say subrian yeah. 473 00:23:38,810 --> 00:23:40,200 He, he was actually that too. 474 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,720 He was that. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, I mean yeah, their fine tooth, 475 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,440 come going back looking at it and there's like those AP classes pay off. 476 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,680 Man. He's gonna have to give a speech, so yep. Uh, we will help. 477 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,720 We will read at least some of that next, uh, episode that he's here. Yeah. 478 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,600 So I want to hear that I wanna be inspired. So, uh, but anyway, 479 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,280 we are drinking enough. Follow the beast, peanut. No more, 480 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,360 got a big old whale tail on it. So watch episode two. 481 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:06,240 You'll understand the reference a little bit more. Um, but yeah, 482 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,240 lower the rings rings of power, Amazon prime. It's good stuff. It. 483 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,240 Is good stuff. My Google history has well tails. 484 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,640 On it. Oh me too. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel lucky. Yep. So . 485 00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:19,400 Tell yours aren't the same. You haven't seen episode too, but I actually, 486 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,560 I think I prefer your well tails. Oh. 487 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,393 Yeah. 488 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,040 but we will see you guys next time. 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